Chords for Iggy Pop interview on the Tom Snyder Show 1980

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_ _ _ He's not taking off his clothes tonight, girls.
_ I _ didn't get a chance to really give you the full introduction because you were playing
there, but I read that you described your music as being savage.
Is that what you think it is, or is that a misquote?
_ Well, no, I was talking to your chick who worked for you the other day. Yeah.
_ Is this mic working?
Yep.
Yeah, and she asked me for a one-word definition.
And one hates to define oneself, you know, so I just used what some guy in a newspaper said that.
Okay.
Well, you got more than_
I know you're on a break.
She said I've come up with _ painful_ _ _
It's intrusive, music.
Okay, okay.
But, but, but, but, but, but, but, but_
Only intrusive to squares.
May I say_ It's fun.
It's for fun.
May I say, it's easily heard.
I thought so.
Yeah. _ _ _ _ _ _
But can I ask you something that I've always wanted to ask people who do what you do for a living?
Because your music is loud and it's driving, do you hear yourself?
Can you hear your own voice when you're singing back there?
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
We have, uh, well, actually, you paid for it, but we have these little monitors.
Yeah?
Uh, when, I'll tell you what_ Yeah?
No, no, no, no, no. Oh, really?
That's a _ _ good question.
When you, when_
When that band is riding.
When you sing the next song, you'll notice on the left and right of the stage, to the
far sides, these little boxes on the floor.
Got it.
That's half of it, and then you've got great ones, these little things on stands, little
tiny speakers pointing toward either of the guitar, guitar _ people.
Players, yeah, yeah.
They're right.
Yeah.
And, and that's how you hear each other.
Okay.
It's sort of a very, uh, it's, it's the musician's bane.
It's the bane of your existence, because when you start out, you can't hear_
Nothing.
You can't hear, uh_ Anything. _ _
_ _ You can't hear what I can't flush in my hotel all the time.
They got the signs in the hotels, too, huh?
Well, no, it's just that, you know, I live in a cheap place, you know. _
_ _ _ But how big an audience for this type of music, which has been called New Wave, do you think there is?
And if you toned it down a little bit, maybe you'd have more fans.
Do you think about that at all?
Why are you bleeding?
Uh, huh?
Why are you bleeding?
Oh, because I'm on your show.
Oh, okay.
_ _ _ _ No, I hit, I hit_
Do you do that?
I hit my nose.
No, I'll tell you, I hit my nose on the mic stand, because, uh, because I was, I was determined
not to break one of your mics.
Do you_
This thing where you throw up on the audience and make yourself bleed and roll on glass?
Is it water?
Ah, here we go.
Sorry.
Do you do that?
_ _ What, did I ever?
Yeah.
Yes.
Why? _ _ _
_ Well_
See how quiet they are, they want to hear.
The first time I ever did it was, uh, it was out of frustration. _
_ I _ _ _ _ _ just felt very bad at the time.
And, uh, and, uh, um, music is an expressive medium that _ _ _ sometimes, uh, sometimes it can
get out of hand, you know, and suddenly maybe you'll be playing a tune and you really want
to express the truth.
And the truth at that moment was that I ought to be cut.
So I cut myself.
You know?
You see, that scares some people.
Well, that was a long time ago, man. Okay, now_
I know, what were you doing that year, you know?
I don't know. Seventy_
_ What year did you do it?
Seventy-three, I think.
You were covering, you were just starting to cover really interesting news events for
a LA show, is that right?
That's right, that's correct.
About that year, you know, so, you know_
Why shouldn't people be frightened by this music?
Well, I didn't_
You know, that's not_
You know, like you say_
That's nothing to do with the music, that's just something I did once, you know?
Okay, but there are some people who, as you_
I had problems.
I hope, I hope to hell that somebody in the record business and the movie business, you
know, who wants to watch someone with some real talent and something and say, well, forgive
me for my problems formerly, you know? _
_ You know, out there, you know? _ _
If people don't forgive you for your problems, what the_
I mean, what, you know?
Just as some people were very terrified of rock and roll when it started and then they
got terrified of the Beatles, there are some people who get scared by any new trend in music. Fair enough.
I'll tell you one terror.
Good question.
In this music.
One terror is that if you play music like the way I do, okay, obviously already, if
I put as much into a song as I possibly can on your show, _ automatically for five, ten
minutes, it's very hard for me to speak articulately or to talk to you, you see?
Okay, you're pumped up back there, sure.
Because I've quite given myself totally to that.
It's Dionysic.
If you know the difference between Dionysic and Apollonian art?
I'm not too good on that.
_ _ _ Dionysic art in Greek times is where like a bunch of people would get together and _ _ they'd
erect a paper phallus 50 feet long and carry it around and chant to some god that they
believed in, right?
You know, and sort of, how should I say, the creation of an event.
It's eventful art.
_ Apollonian is when you just make a statue and it's there forever and it's set out very clearly.
There's a Dionysic element to my art that does, I suppose a lot of people might be frightened
to be me, but I'm quite happy to be.
You know?
All right.
In the world of music, who are your favorites?
Who are people you've looked up to as you've grown up and grown into the music business?
_ _ _ Um, a lot of other worldly types like Sun Ra is one.
A guy called Cab Calloway, you probably know him.
_ _ _ _ What's the guy? _
_ _ _ Fats Waller.
Okay.
Uh, _ _ _ Holland Wolf.
People that you're talking about could be described in a one word label again as being conventional.
_ _ No, they weren't at the time.
_ No, but everything evolves, you know, when you look back.
Well, they got conventional this year, but back then they _ were sort of sleazy, you know?
I mean, I hang out, you know? _
_ _ _ I mean, I'd rather have fun than anything else, you know?
But you said something at the beginning of our talk.
This music is supposed to be fun.
Okay?
It's not a put down, it's not a threat.
Yeah, it's for fun.
That's what _ _ it's for.
It's a function line.
_ _ _ Will you introduce the gentleman in your band when you get back to do this next number?
I'd love to.
Yeah. Terrific.
Thank you for having me.
Thank you.
And the song that you're going to sing for us is called Five Foot One.
Yeah, that's right.
Okay.
_ Iggy Pop will be right back after these announcements from our sponsors and from the NBC television station.
Thank you for being with us.
Okay.
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