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But meanwhile, let's jump the generation gap and greet Mark Bowman.
I've been reading recently, Mark, in a newspaper, an article which suggests that you are the successor to the Beatles.
That you in fact claim that you're a successor to the Beatles.
I never said that.
You didn't say that?
No way.
You continue and I'll fill in.
Go on, please.
Do you have in your mind any intention
They said that.
Okay.
How does it strike you then?
That you have views and ideas about that.
Well, people
When anyone does anything, they seem to give you a reason.
You know, you're doing this show and at some point they're going to say that you're like, I don't know,
Parkinson, Andrews.
You know, it's like they do something on you.
We've sold a lot of records, which I'm very grateful for.
It's very sweet and everything.
It's very nice.
And we do what we do.
The Beatles are one thing,
the Rolling Stones were another.
We are something else.
Alright.
So we all know what the Beatles were.
Some of us know what the Rolling Stones
Yeah, they turn it into
They want to pigeonhole you into something that is not necessarily what you do.
[F] I'm sort of
a cross between a lot of people.
Media-wise, being that
the first person that really turned me on to things.
I'm moving a lot.
Move to a higher extent.
Move around.
As long as you don't knock the mic.
It can go anywhere.
Really, when I decided what I was going to do
was Bob Dylan.
I started as a poet.
I used to write when I was about nine.
And I realised that if I used what
really moved me
as a human being, which is rock and roll,
not pop music,
because that is too wide,
the gap, rock and roll,
and I put the words that I felt
very deeply inside me,
it would be alright.
And he was successful at that, and I figured I might be.
Getting back to this dreaded article,
which clearly is going down like a lead balloon with you,
I want to quote you a bit,
which says, for the first time in pop history,
we have a superstar projecting
not sex, but romance.
Sex is a part of it.
That was Lord Byron, wasn't it?
Could well have been Lord Byron.
Sex is a part of it, it says,
but it's sex by courtesy of the magic prince,
and I presume that means you,
who is going to deflower the young virgin
in an atmosphere of blissful romance.
I like that.
I don't know,
I think what they're trying to imply is that,
I don't know,
the appeal of what I'm supposed to be
to that thing is like
a teenage crash thing.
It makes you out there as a kind of wistful,
magical, distant
You know better, though, right?
[G] How do you safeguard
yourself against the kind of
adulation you receive?
How do you remain critical, self-critical?
How do you keep a hold on yourself
when everybody's screaming and shouting and banging out to you?
Depends what sort of person [N] you are, very seriously.
That's what you're told.
I always remember, Terry Dean
was a guy, they tried to put him in the army
or something, and he freaked out,
and he'd had some sort of
It doesn't register to me like that,
very seriously.
I'm not any different
from when I was about nine years old.
I don't feel any different.
I mean, the people here, I don't know if they've heard of us or not.
One works in a realm.
In the realm that we work in,
I find it exciting,
and I like to do what I do.
I can't walk down the street anymore, right?
So I employ people around me to make sure that no one
really doesn't.
I had to move because I couldn't stay at home
for hundreds of kids that was like.
They were breaking the place up?
Well, they didn't mean it as riot all over the wall.
It's a hangout for the neighbours.
I enjoyed it,
but it was like the neighbours got worried about it.
You still haven't told me how you keep
hold of your own critical,
self-critical faculty.
What I'm trying to say is that, as I say,
I started as a writer,
and I don't feel any different.
What is it you're asking me?
If I talk to anyone, for instance,
if you talk to, I don't know, Catherine Hepburn,
who's a very groovy lady anyway,
she never gives interviews,
so I'm told.
She is a very level-headed woman.
You know, you don't
You're a craftsman.
I consider myself a craftsman
at what I do, be it writing songs,
and just
I do it and give it to people,
and I'd like a feedback.
If I don't get it,
then it's very sad,
and if I'm a dustman tomorrow, tough.
Can you finally tell me what your own
attitude to say to money is?
I mean, you're earning a lot of money,
and it's rolling in every day.
And presumably,
as you've told me already,
and as we've already read,
you've had some kind of training in poverty.
Is your mum watching you?
Of course.
She's watching you.
What kind of
attitude do you now have to it?
Are you enjoying it?
Do you sort of come away?
Money brings problems
in as far as
The thing with pop stars that people don't understand
is that pop stars as such
is that they, you know,
you work and you do things,
but you also employ 15 people to work around you.
The Stones have got 35.
And they've never made
a tour that made me money.
I mean, you don't make an incredible amount of money.
You do it because you live in your environment.
I'm doing this show tonight
because I saw you on Sunday
when you were having dinner, and it was nice to see you.
That's what it's for.
Money is
I don't know.
I don't think about money.
Someone told me
the other day that I had a lot of money.
I never buy anything
but records and books.
Do you consider yourself to be privileged?
Because what you're saying now, what you're uttering now
are the remarks of a privileged person.
If you don't consider
Again, you've got to tell me what a privileged person is.
Well, anybody who can sit back at whatever age you are,
which is not all that old.
In the kind of society we largely live in
and say, money doesn't concern me.
I buy a car because
I need a car, but I don't drive a car,
but I have white wheels in the garage, or had.
People buy things for me.
People look after things for me.
Do you not consider that to be a privileged kind of situation?
No one looks after things.
You're making it sound very different.
People look after your business deals.
You must tell me, what do you think
a rock and roll star is and should be?
That's what the point is, I think.
I mean, what is
What is privileged?
I'm not asking you.
All I'm asking you to say to me is
do you consider yourself privileged?
Privileged at what?
Well, in a situation
in which a lot of other people would envy you.
You're in a situation in which people
make other people envious.
We have to find out exactly what people think
you are to envy.
I've been involved slightly in making films a little bit.
I wouldn't envy
Did you have Tony Curtis last week?
I'm trying to think about it.
Right.
Making films, you've got to be up at 7 o'clock
in the morning and in bed at 6 at night.
If you tell
And churning out.
Can we go to the audience?
What do you think a pop star is?
Can anyone say?
On the flat.
Come on, it doesn't matter.
Hard worker.
Well, that's nice.
That makes
It is a job.
People think that you just go into the studio
and a couple of hours
it's all over.
It's not like that at all.
Is it?
It's damn hard work.
It really is.
But isn't everything, though?
Yes.
People have this illusion about
You get someone and they always print things in the papers
about all these millions of pounds
that people make.
They probably say about him and about lots of people.
But the illusion is what
sustains you in a certain position.
The illusion is what, in fact,
makes people buy your records and listen to you
and scream at you and shout at you.
It's a carefully constructed illusion.
It's not something that you would throw away lightly.
No, it's not carefully constructed.
It's artistic.
I mean, I don't know.
The last year for me has been very weird
because I did what those people did
and I now do what I do now.
I never believed in security
and I still don't.
I feel I do what I do to people that want to listen.
If they don't want to listen, crap them.
I don't care.
Right?
I do it because I believe in it and I'm giving everything I can.
And you get to a point,
and you do it, and if people boot you,
I'm not really raster.
It's like you do it and that's what I do it for.
What I get back is
incidental.
Someone says, like,
that new LP thing, right, we did 100,000 in a day.
You sold 100,000 in a day.
Which is a lot of records, but I don't think of that.
I just, I can still see each person
going in the shop.
That's because for years I used to steal records
and nip things out of me mum's gas box
and stuff to buy records, right?
So I can still relate to that.
Do you ever wake up
in the middle of the night, it's a question, it must have been
asked 85 times before, do you ever wake up in the middle of the night
and think, in another
20 or 30 years I'm going to be 50 or 60?
What shall I be doing?
You don't.
Never think about it.
I mean, um
It doesn't haunt you.
What, so what did someone
say to me, with a very deep voice, that Lord Tennyson?
It doesn't haunt you, that, in the middle of the night.
Um, I don't think I live that long.
You don't?
No.
Well I hope you live long enough
to come back some other time and carry on with Part 2
whenever that may be.
Thank you very much.
I've been reading recently, Mark, in a newspaper, an article which suggests that you are the successor to the Beatles.
That you in fact claim that you're a successor to the Beatles.
I never said that.
You didn't say that?
No way.
You continue and I'll fill in.
Go on, please.
Do you have in your mind any intention
They said that.
Okay.
How does it strike you then?
That you have views and ideas about that.
Well, people
When anyone does anything, they seem to give you a reason.
You know, you're doing this show and at some point they're going to say that you're like, I don't know,
Parkinson, Andrews.
You know, it's like they do something on you.
We've sold a lot of records, which I'm very grateful for.
It's very sweet and everything.
It's very nice.
And we do what we do.
The Beatles are one thing,
the Rolling Stones were another.
We are something else.
Alright.
So we all know what the Beatles were.
Some of us know what the Rolling Stones
Yeah, they turn it into
They want to pigeonhole you into something that is not necessarily what you do.
[F] I'm sort of
a cross between a lot of people.
Media-wise, being that
the first person that really turned me on to things.
I'm moving a lot.
Move to a higher extent.
Move around.
As long as you don't knock the mic.
It can go anywhere.
Really, when I decided what I was going to do
was Bob Dylan.
I started as a poet.
I used to write when I was about nine.
And I realised that if I used what
really moved me
as a human being, which is rock and roll,
not pop music,
because that is too wide,
the gap, rock and roll,
and I put the words that I felt
very deeply inside me,
it would be alright.
And he was successful at that, and I figured I might be.
Getting back to this dreaded article,
which clearly is going down like a lead balloon with you,
I want to quote you a bit,
which says, for the first time in pop history,
we have a superstar projecting
not sex, but romance.
Sex is a part of it.
That was Lord Byron, wasn't it?
Could well have been Lord Byron.
Sex is a part of it, it says,
but it's sex by courtesy of the magic prince,
and I presume that means you,
who is going to deflower the young virgin
in an atmosphere of blissful romance.
I like that.
I don't know,
I think what they're trying to imply is that,
I don't know,
the appeal of what I'm supposed to be
to that thing is like
a teenage crash thing.
It makes you out there as a kind of wistful,
magical, distant
You know better, though, right?
[G] How do you safeguard
yourself against the kind of
adulation you receive?
How do you remain critical, self-critical?
How do you keep a hold on yourself
when everybody's screaming and shouting and banging out to you?
Depends what sort of person [N] you are, very seriously.
That's what you're told.
I always remember, Terry Dean
was a guy, they tried to put him in the army
or something, and he freaked out,
and he'd had some sort of
It doesn't register to me like that,
very seriously.
I'm not any different
from when I was about nine years old.
I don't feel any different.
I mean, the people here, I don't know if they've heard of us or not.
One works in a realm.
In the realm that we work in,
I find it exciting,
and I like to do what I do.
I can't walk down the street anymore, right?
So I employ people around me to make sure that no one
really doesn't.
I had to move because I couldn't stay at home
for hundreds of kids that was like.
They were breaking the place up?
Well, they didn't mean it as riot all over the wall.
It's a hangout for the neighbours.
I enjoyed it,
but it was like the neighbours got worried about it.
You still haven't told me how you keep
hold of your own critical,
self-critical faculty.
What I'm trying to say is that, as I say,
I started as a writer,
and I don't feel any different.
What is it you're asking me?
If I talk to anyone, for instance,
if you talk to, I don't know, Catherine Hepburn,
who's a very groovy lady anyway,
she never gives interviews,
so I'm told.
She is a very level-headed woman.
You know, you don't
You're a craftsman.
I consider myself a craftsman
at what I do, be it writing songs,
and just
I do it and give it to people,
and I'd like a feedback.
If I don't get it,
then it's very sad,
and if I'm a dustman tomorrow, tough.
Can you finally tell me what your own
attitude to say to money is?
I mean, you're earning a lot of money,
and it's rolling in every day.
And presumably,
as you've told me already,
and as we've already read,
you've had some kind of training in poverty.
Is your mum watching you?
Of course.
She's watching you.
What kind of
attitude do you now have to it?
Are you enjoying it?
Do you sort of come away?
Money brings problems
in as far as
The thing with pop stars that people don't understand
is that pop stars as such
is that they, you know,
you work and you do things,
but you also employ 15 people to work around you.
The Stones have got 35.
And they've never made
a tour that made me money.
I mean, you don't make an incredible amount of money.
You do it because you live in your environment.
I'm doing this show tonight
because I saw you on Sunday
when you were having dinner, and it was nice to see you.
That's what it's for.
Money is
I don't know.
I don't think about money.
Someone told me
the other day that I had a lot of money.
I never buy anything
but records and books.
Do you consider yourself to be privileged?
Because what you're saying now, what you're uttering now
are the remarks of a privileged person.
If you don't consider
Again, you've got to tell me what a privileged person is.
Well, anybody who can sit back at whatever age you are,
which is not all that old.
In the kind of society we largely live in
and say, money doesn't concern me.
I buy a car because
I need a car, but I don't drive a car,
but I have white wheels in the garage, or had.
People buy things for me.
People look after things for me.
Do you not consider that to be a privileged kind of situation?
No one looks after things.
You're making it sound very different.
People look after your business deals.
You must tell me, what do you think
a rock and roll star is and should be?
That's what the point is, I think.
I mean, what is
What is privileged?
I'm not asking you.
All I'm asking you to say to me is
do you consider yourself privileged?
Privileged at what?
Well, in a situation
in which a lot of other people would envy you.
You're in a situation in which people
make other people envious.
We have to find out exactly what people think
you are to envy.
I've been involved slightly in making films a little bit.
I wouldn't envy
Did you have Tony Curtis last week?
I'm trying to think about it.
Right.
Making films, you've got to be up at 7 o'clock
in the morning and in bed at 6 at night.
If you tell
And churning out.
Can we go to the audience?
What do you think a pop star is?
Can anyone say?
On the flat.
Come on, it doesn't matter.
Hard worker.
Well, that's nice.
That makes
It is a job.
People think that you just go into the studio
and a couple of hours
it's all over.
It's not like that at all.
Is it?
It's damn hard work.
It really is.
But isn't everything, though?
Yes.
People have this illusion about
You get someone and they always print things in the papers
about all these millions of pounds
that people make.
They probably say about him and about lots of people.
But the illusion is what
sustains you in a certain position.
The illusion is what, in fact,
makes people buy your records and listen to you
and scream at you and shout at you.
It's a carefully constructed illusion.
It's not something that you would throw away lightly.
No, it's not carefully constructed.
It's artistic.
I mean, I don't know.
The last year for me has been very weird
because I did what those people did
and I now do what I do now.
I never believed in security
and I still don't.
I feel I do what I do to people that want to listen.
If they don't want to listen, crap them.
I don't care.
Right?
I do it because I believe in it and I'm giving everything I can.
And you get to a point,
and you do it, and if people boot you,
I'm not really raster.
It's like you do it and that's what I do it for.
What I get back is
incidental.
Someone says, like,
that new LP thing, right, we did 100,000 in a day.
You sold 100,000 in a day.
Which is a lot of records, but I don't think of that.
I just, I can still see each person
going in the shop.
That's because for years I used to steal records
and nip things out of me mum's gas box
and stuff to buy records, right?
So I can still relate to that.
Do you ever wake up
in the middle of the night, it's a question, it must have been
asked 85 times before, do you ever wake up in the middle of the night
and think, in another
20 or 30 years I'm going to be 50 or 60?
What shall I be doing?
You don't.
Never think about it.
I mean, um
It doesn't haunt you.
What, so what did someone
say to me, with a very deep voice, that Lord Tennyson?
It doesn't haunt you, that, in the middle of the night.
Um, I don't think I live that long.
You don't?
No.
Well I hope you live long enough
to come back some other time and carry on with Part 2
whenever that may be.
Thank you very much.
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But meanwhile, let's jump the generation gap and greet Mark Bowman.
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ I've been reading recently, Mark, in a newspaper, an article which suggests that you are the successor to the Beatles.
That you in fact claim that you're a successor to the Beatles.
I never said that.
You didn't say that?
No way.
You continue and I'll fill in.
Go on, please.
Do you have in your mind any intention_
They said that.
Okay.
How does it strike you then?
That you have views and ideas about that.
Well, people_
_ When anyone does anything, they seem to give you a reason.
You know, you're doing this show and at some point they're going to say that you're like, I don't know,
_ Parkinson, Andrews.
You know, it's like they do something on you.
_ _ We've sold a lot of records, which I'm very grateful for.
It's very sweet and everything.
It's very nice.
And we do what we do.
The Beatles are one thing,
the Rolling Stones were another.
We are something else.
Alright.
So we all know what the Beatles were.
Some of us know what the Rolling Stones_
Yeah, they turn it into_
They want to pigeonhole you into something that is not necessarily what you do.
[F] I'm sort of
a cross between a lot of people.
Media-wise, being that
the first person that really turned me on to things.
I'm moving a lot.
Move to a higher extent.
Move around.
As long as you don't knock the mic.
It can go anywhere.
_ Really, when I decided what I was going to do
was Bob Dylan.
I started as a poet.
I used to write when I was about nine.
And I realised that if I used what
really moved me
as a human being, which is rock and roll,
not pop music,
because that is too wide,
the gap, rock and roll,
and I put the words that I felt
very deeply inside me,
it would be alright.
And he was successful at that, and I figured I might be.
Getting back to this dreaded article,
which clearly is going down like a lead balloon with you,
I want to quote you a bit,
which says, for the first time in pop history,
we have a superstar projecting
not sex, but romance.
Sex is a part of it.
That was Lord Byron, wasn't it?
_ _ Could well have been Lord Byron.
Sex is a part of it, it says,
but it's sex by courtesy of the magic prince,
and I presume that means you,
who is going to deflower the young virgin
in an atmosphere of blissful romance.
I like that.
_ _ _ _ I don't know,
I think what they're trying to imply is that,
I don't know,
the appeal of what I'm supposed to be
to that thing is like
a teenage crash thing.
It makes you out there as a kind of wistful,
magical, distant_
You know better, though, right?
_ [G] How do you safeguard
yourself against the kind of
adulation you receive?
How do you remain critical, self-critical?
How do you keep a hold on yourself
when everybody's screaming and shouting and banging out to you?
Depends what sort of person [N] you are, very seriously.
That's what you're told.
I always remember, Terry Dean
was a guy, they tried to put him in the army
or something, and he freaked out,
and he'd had some sort of_
_ It doesn't register to me like that,
very seriously. _
I'm not any different
from when I was about nine years old.
I don't feel any different.
I mean, the people here, I don't know if they've heard of us or not.
One works in a realm.
In the realm that we work in,
I find it exciting,
and I like to do what I do.
_ I can't walk down the street anymore, right?
So I employ people around me to make sure that no one
really doesn't.
I had to move because I couldn't stay at home
for hundreds of kids that was like.
They were breaking the place up?
Well, they didn't mean it as riot all over the wall.
It's a hangout for the neighbours.
I enjoyed it,
but it was like the neighbours got worried about it.
You still haven't told me how you keep
hold of your own critical,
self-critical faculty.
What I'm trying to say is that, as I say,
I started as a writer, _ _
and I don't feel any different.
What is it you're asking me?
If I talk to anyone, for instance,
if you talk to, I don't know, Catherine Hepburn,
who's a very groovy lady anyway,
she never gives interviews,
so I'm told.
She is a very level-headed woman.
You know, you don't_
You're a craftsman.
I consider myself a craftsman
at what I do, be it writing songs, _ _ _
and just
I do it and give it to people,
and I'd like a feedback.
If I don't get it,
then it's very sad,
and if I'm a dustman tomorrow, tough.
Can you finally tell me what your own
attitude to say to money is?
I mean, you're earning a lot of money,
and it's rolling in every day.
And presumably,
as you've told me already,
and as we've already read,
you've had some kind of training in poverty.
_ Is your mum watching you?
Of course.
She's watching you.
What kind of
attitude do you now have to it?
Are you enjoying it?
Do you sort of come away?
_ Money brings problems
in as far as_
The thing with pop stars that people don't understand
is that pop stars as such
is that they, you know,
you work and you do things,
but you also employ 15 people to work around you.
The Stones have got 35.
And they've never made
a tour that made me money.
I mean, you don't make an incredible amount of money.
You do it because you live in your environment.
I'm doing this show tonight
because I saw you on Sunday
when you were having dinner, and it was nice to see you.
That's what it's for.
Money is_
I don't know.
I don't think about money.
Someone told me
the other day that I had a lot of money.
I never buy anything
but records and books.
Do you consider yourself to be privileged?
Because what you're saying now, what you're uttering now
are the remarks of a privileged person.
If you don't consider_
Again, you've got to tell me what a privileged person is.
Well, anybody who can sit back at whatever age you are,
which is not all that old.
In the kind of society we largely live in
and say, money doesn't concern me.
I buy a car because
I need a car, but I don't drive a car,
but I have white wheels in the garage, or had.
People buy things for me.
People look after things for me.
Do you not consider that to be a privileged kind of situation?
No one looks after things.
You're making it sound very different.
People look after your business deals.
You must tell me, what do you think
a rock and roll star is and should be?
That's what the point is, I think.
I mean, what is_
What is privileged?
I'm not asking you.
All I'm asking you to say to me is
do you consider yourself privileged?
Privileged at what?
Well, in a situation
in which a lot of other people would envy you.
You're in a situation in which people
make other people envious.
We have to find out exactly what people think
you are to envy.
I've been involved slightly in making films a little bit.
I wouldn't envy_
Did you have Tony Curtis last week?
I'm trying to think about it.
Right.
Making films, you've got to be up at 7 o'clock
in the morning and in bed at 6 at night.
If you tell_
And churning out.
Can we go to the audience?
_ _ What do you think a pop star is?
Can anyone say?
On the flat.
Come on, it doesn't matter.
_ Hard worker.
Well, that's nice.
That makes_
It _ is a job.
People think that you just go into the studio
and a couple of hours
it's all over.
It's not like that at all.
Is it?
It's damn hard work.
It really is.
But isn't everything, though?
Yes.
People have this illusion about_
You get someone and they always print things in the papers
about all these millions of pounds
that people make.
They probably say about him and about lots of people.
But the illusion is what
sustains you in a certain position.
The illusion is what, in fact,
makes people buy your records and listen to you
and scream at you and shout at you.
It's a carefully constructed illusion.
It's not something that you would throw away lightly.
No, it's not carefully constructed.
It's artistic.
I mean, I don't know.
The last year for me has been very weird
because I did what those people did
and I now do what I do now.
I never believed in security
and I still don't.
I feel I do what I do to people that want to listen.
If they don't want to listen, crap them.
I don't care.
Right?
I do it because I believe in it and I'm giving everything I can.
And you get to a point,
and you do it, and if people boot you,
I'm not really raster.
It's like you do it and that's what I do it for.
What I get back is
incidental.
Someone says, like,
that new LP thing, right, we did 100,000 in a day.
You sold 100,000 in a day.
Which is a lot of records, but I don't think of that.
I just, I can still see each person
going in the shop.
That's because for years I used to steal records
and nip things out of me mum's gas box
and stuff to buy records, right?
So I can still relate to that.
Do you ever wake up
in the middle of the night, it's a question, it must have been
asked 85 times before, do you ever wake up in the middle of the night
and think, in another
20 or 30 years I'm going to be 50 or 60?
What shall I be doing?
_ _ _ You don't.
Never think about it.
I mean, _ _ um_
It doesn't haunt you.
What, so what did someone
say to me, with a very deep voice, that Lord Tennyson?
_ _ It doesn't haunt you, that, in the middle of the night.
Um, I don't think I live that long.
You don't?
No.
Well I hope you live long enough
to come back some other time and carry on with Part 2
whenever that may be.
Thank you very much. _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _
_ _ _ _ _ _ I've been reading recently, Mark, in a newspaper, an article which suggests that you are the successor to the Beatles.
That you in fact claim that you're a successor to the Beatles.
I never said that.
You didn't say that?
No way.
You continue and I'll fill in.
Go on, please.
Do you have in your mind any intention_
They said that.
Okay.
How does it strike you then?
That you have views and ideas about that.
Well, people_
_ When anyone does anything, they seem to give you a reason.
You know, you're doing this show and at some point they're going to say that you're like, I don't know,
_ Parkinson, Andrews.
You know, it's like they do something on you.
_ _ We've sold a lot of records, which I'm very grateful for.
It's very sweet and everything.
It's very nice.
And we do what we do.
The Beatles are one thing,
the Rolling Stones were another.
We are something else.
Alright.
So we all know what the Beatles were.
Some of us know what the Rolling Stones_
Yeah, they turn it into_
They want to pigeonhole you into something that is not necessarily what you do.
[F] I'm sort of
a cross between a lot of people.
Media-wise, being that
the first person that really turned me on to things.
I'm moving a lot.
Move to a higher extent.
Move around.
As long as you don't knock the mic.
It can go anywhere.
_ Really, when I decided what I was going to do
was Bob Dylan.
I started as a poet.
I used to write when I was about nine.
And I realised that if I used what
really moved me
as a human being, which is rock and roll,
not pop music,
because that is too wide,
the gap, rock and roll,
and I put the words that I felt
very deeply inside me,
it would be alright.
And he was successful at that, and I figured I might be.
Getting back to this dreaded article,
which clearly is going down like a lead balloon with you,
I want to quote you a bit,
which says, for the first time in pop history,
we have a superstar projecting
not sex, but romance.
Sex is a part of it.
That was Lord Byron, wasn't it?
_ _ Could well have been Lord Byron.
Sex is a part of it, it says,
but it's sex by courtesy of the magic prince,
and I presume that means you,
who is going to deflower the young virgin
in an atmosphere of blissful romance.
I like that.
_ _ _ _ I don't know,
I think what they're trying to imply is that,
I don't know,
the appeal of what I'm supposed to be
to that thing is like
a teenage crash thing.
It makes you out there as a kind of wistful,
magical, distant_
You know better, though, right?
_ [G] How do you safeguard
yourself against the kind of
adulation you receive?
How do you remain critical, self-critical?
How do you keep a hold on yourself
when everybody's screaming and shouting and banging out to you?
Depends what sort of person [N] you are, very seriously.
That's what you're told.
I always remember, Terry Dean
was a guy, they tried to put him in the army
or something, and he freaked out,
and he'd had some sort of_
_ It doesn't register to me like that,
very seriously. _
I'm not any different
from when I was about nine years old.
I don't feel any different.
I mean, the people here, I don't know if they've heard of us or not.
One works in a realm.
In the realm that we work in,
I find it exciting,
and I like to do what I do.
_ I can't walk down the street anymore, right?
So I employ people around me to make sure that no one
really doesn't.
I had to move because I couldn't stay at home
for hundreds of kids that was like.
They were breaking the place up?
Well, they didn't mean it as riot all over the wall.
It's a hangout for the neighbours.
I enjoyed it,
but it was like the neighbours got worried about it.
You still haven't told me how you keep
hold of your own critical,
self-critical faculty.
What I'm trying to say is that, as I say,
I started as a writer, _ _
and I don't feel any different.
What is it you're asking me?
If I talk to anyone, for instance,
if you talk to, I don't know, Catherine Hepburn,
who's a very groovy lady anyway,
she never gives interviews,
so I'm told.
She is a very level-headed woman.
You know, you don't_
You're a craftsman.
I consider myself a craftsman
at what I do, be it writing songs, _ _ _
and just
I do it and give it to people,
and I'd like a feedback.
If I don't get it,
then it's very sad,
and if I'm a dustman tomorrow, tough.
Can you finally tell me what your own
attitude to say to money is?
I mean, you're earning a lot of money,
and it's rolling in every day.
And presumably,
as you've told me already,
and as we've already read,
you've had some kind of training in poverty.
_ Is your mum watching you?
Of course.
She's watching you.
What kind of
attitude do you now have to it?
Are you enjoying it?
Do you sort of come away?
_ Money brings problems
in as far as_
The thing with pop stars that people don't understand
is that pop stars as such
is that they, you know,
you work and you do things,
but you also employ 15 people to work around you.
The Stones have got 35.
And they've never made
a tour that made me money.
I mean, you don't make an incredible amount of money.
You do it because you live in your environment.
I'm doing this show tonight
because I saw you on Sunday
when you were having dinner, and it was nice to see you.
That's what it's for.
Money is_
I don't know.
I don't think about money.
Someone told me
the other day that I had a lot of money.
I never buy anything
but records and books.
Do you consider yourself to be privileged?
Because what you're saying now, what you're uttering now
are the remarks of a privileged person.
If you don't consider_
Again, you've got to tell me what a privileged person is.
Well, anybody who can sit back at whatever age you are,
which is not all that old.
In the kind of society we largely live in
and say, money doesn't concern me.
I buy a car because
I need a car, but I don't drive a car,
but I have white wheels in the garage, or had.
People buy things for me.
People look after things for me.
Do you not consider that to be a privileged kind of situation?
No one looks after things.
You're making it sound very different.
People look after your business deals.
You must tell me, what do you think
a rock and roll star is and should be?
That's what the point is, I think.
I mean, what is_
What is privileged?
I'm not asking you.
All I'm asking you to say to me is
do you consider yourself privileged?
Privileged at what?
Well, in a situation
in which a lot of other people would envy you.
You're in a situation in which people
make other people envious.
We have to find out exactly what people think
you are to envy.
I've been involved slightly in making films a little bit.
I wouldn't envy_
Did you have Tony Curtis last week?
I'm trying to think about it.
Right.
Making films, you've got to be up at 7 o'clock
in the morning and in bed at 6 at night.
If you tell_
And churning out.
Can we go to the audience?
_ _ What do you think a pop star is?
Can anyone say?
On the flat.
Come on, it doesn't matter.
_ Hard worker.
Well, that's nice.
That makes_
It _ is a job.
People think that you just go into the studio
and a couple of hours
it's all over.
It's not like that at all.
Is it?
It's damn hard work.
It really is.
But isn't everything, though?
Yes.
People have this illusion about_
You get someone and they always print things in the papers
about all these millions of pounds
that people make.
They probably say about him and about lots of people.
But the illusion is what
sustains you in a certain position.
The illusion is what, in fact,
makes people buy your records and listen to you
and scream at you and shout at you.
It's a carefully constructed illusion.
It's not something that you would throw away lightly.
No, it's not carefully constructed.
It's artistic.
I mean, I don't know.
The last year for me has been very weird
because I did what those people did
and I now do what I do now.
I never believed in security
and I still don't.
I feel I do what I do to people that want to listen.
If they don't want to listen, crap them.
I don't care.
Right?
I do it because I believe in it and I'm giving everything I can.
And you get to a point,
and you do it, and if people boot you,
I'm not really raster.
It's like you do it and that's what I do it for.
What I get back is
incidental.
Someone says, like,
that new LP thing, right, we did 100,000 in a day.
You sold 100,000 in a day.
Which is a lot of records, but I don't think of that.
I just, I can still see each person
going in the shop.
That's because for years I used to steal records
and nip things out of me mum's gas box
and stuff to buy records, right?
So I can still relate to that.
Do you ever wake up
in the middle of the night, it's a question, it must have been
asked 85 times before, do you ever wake up in the middle of the night
and think, in another
20 or 30 years I'm going to be 50 or 60?
What shall I be doing?
_ _ _ You don't.
Never think about it.
I mean, _ _ um_
It doesn't haunt you.
What, so what did someone
say to me, with a very deep voice, that Lord Tennyson?
_ _ It doesn't haunt you, that, in the middle of the night.
Um, I don't think I live that long.
You don't?
No.
Well I hope you live long enough
to come back some other time and carry on with Part 2
whenever that may be.
Thank you very much. _ _ _